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Post by Guest on Jan 9, 2012 19:39:16 GMT -5
Has managed to put together some great teams, any thoughts on pros and cons or strengths and weaknesses?
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Post by 86ocwrestler on Jan 10, 2012 20:54:17 GMT -5
I can't believe there hasn't been any comments!!
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Post by murphslaw on Jan 12, 2012 9:56:31 GMT -5
the best coach , the best program, nothing left to say.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 15:45:32 GMT -5
Coach Swink is a great coach! A top down, lead by example, no excuses, we work harder than you kinda guy, who, along with a fantastic group of assistant coaches gets results from boys year after year. He breeds a very competitive culture to which the boys buy in and learn to drive themselves under the ever watching eyes of a coach they respect and want to please! No secrets, just hard work from the top to the bottom! GO FORGE! Thanks Coach!
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Post by Insider on Feb 20, 2012 12:50:41 GMT -5
I've know coach Swink for years. He's the real deal and surrounds himself with the best coaches, puts in more time than any coach I know of, and does a lot to improve Virginia wrestling.
His off-season time consists of coaching kids from everywhere to ready them for USA wrestling events. His assistants are equally dedicated and the alumni keeps coming back to help out. He's also involved in developing youth wrestling with his camps and clinics, and is one of the very few high school coaches in the area to host youth events on his days off. He has created a dynasty with local talent unmatched by any school in Virginia.
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Post by All Over on Aug 5, 2013 11:20:29 GMT -5
Why does everyone tip-toe around the term "recruiting"?
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Post by Coach2014 on Aug 5, 2013 14:20:03 GMT -5
Recruiting is there but Coach Swink doesn't do it. The program sells itself. If you or your wrestler lived in the area and had the chance to go to Colonial Forge you would be crazy not to go. It is a "National" program with successful stories about wrestlers after high school too. Coach Swink may be accused of recruiting, but I doubt that he or anyone on his staff do it. Every coach has at some point said to a young wrestler that is great "where are you going to to high school at?" Wrestler says xyz high school,coach replies with well at my abc high school we have a great program and you would enjoy being coached by me and enjoy the school." If your coach isn't doing that shame on them. Coach Swink has built a brand Colonial Forge. Coach Swink along with a few other coaches in the State have worked hard to build up the status of Virginia Wrestling as a whole. We should tip our hats to coaches like him and if you are a coach try to equal what he has done.
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Post by Coach1998 on Aug 5, 2013 19:35:52 GMT -5
I don't think anyone will argue that he does alot for the kids in this state and the sport of wrestling. I don't think anyone should single him out. There are many coaches like him all over the country and even in the state of VA. And the example you used is considered a recruiting technique. What kid wouldn't want to hear that or what parent wouldn't be flattered by a varsity coach taking an interest in their kid. There are many top notch "put together" teams here in VA that have many many kids on the roster that should not be going to the "recruiting school" because it is not their sending district. I also realize that there are many ways around it, they're called loopholes and may coaches exploit these rules to their advantage. And parents and those less informed people always try to argue that their jigsaw all-star team is a legit team. For many it starts at the youth level. I see many of these coaches lending a hand with the youth teams, CAWL teams, club teams, etc. And while I think its important to have the varisty or HS coaches involved with their feeder programs, I see a big problem with hand picking kids out of these programs to come over. Take for example Blair was not good for a long time. They started pulling in top notch kids, making a tough room, leading to more top notch kids coming in. Anybody can coach a room like that. And its the same with some of these programs here. "If you recruit them, they will come". No matter what is said about it, it will continue till the right people step in and fix it.
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Post by Wrestling Fan on Aug 5, 2013 20:59:02 GMT -5
It's amazing how those who cannot beat the best try to tair the program down. Instead of making excuses on why your program isn't successful, try learning and modeling your program after a proven winner. Prime example, forge held a excellent technique camp that lasted four whole days. Legendary Blair Coach, Head Coach from Maryland, Head Coach from American, USA Coach Dale Oliver, and two up and coming Coaches from VT. There was only two kids from the Stafford County area, 1 Brooke Point, 1 Mountain View. Now tell me what's wrong with that picture.
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Post by Wrestling Fan on Aug 5, 2013 21:01:32 GMT -5
It's amazing how those who cannot beat the best try to tear the program down. Instead of making excuses on why your program isn't successful, try learning and modeling your program after a proven winner. Prime example, forge held a excellent technique camp that lasted four whole days. Legendary Blair Coach, Head Coach from Maryland, Head Coach from American, USA Coach Dale Oliver, and two up and coming Coaches from VT. There was only two kids from the Stafford County area, 1 Brooke Point, 1 Mountain View. Now tell me what's wrong with that picture.
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Post by Kelly on Aug 5, 2013 21:17:14 GMT -5
I really don't know Coach Swink, but several things stand out to me:
1. He has contributed to wresting not only at Colonial Forge, but in the state of VA. It appears the sport of wrestling is a passion and love for him.
2. He has in the past opened up his room to any wrestler looking to come in and work in the off-season.
3. I have never seen him exhibit poor sportsmanship or behave inappropriately.
If I were an advanced and talented wrestler, I would seek out every avenue to go to Forge and other well organized programs that are willing and able to help me accomplish my goals.
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Post by tigerpark135 on Aug 5, 2013 23:45:50 GMT -5
What Coach Swink has going on in his room is a well oiled machine. I have experienced it first hand. I have not been to alot of other top notch programs' practices but can probably guess that the only kids in the state that get better wrestling work outs than Forge would be Christiansburg. And I am not talking about the practices at Christiansburg high school........BTW did I mention how great the VA Tech wrestling Camp is? The Tech wrestlers will tell you all sorts of stories if you create a rapport with them.
Coach Swinks best attribute is: "Motivation"
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Post by Non-Recruit on Aug 6, 2013 7:51:47 GMT -5
WOW!!! It's amazing how everyone totally misses the point. No one is questioning what "certain" coaches do for the sport in this less than par wrestling state. Tiger Park its funny you mentioned Christiansburg and Forge...do you see the similarity to the above conversation? C'Burg=feeder program for Tech. And wrestling fan, how does holding a camp add or negatate from the recruiting conversation? There are hundreds of thousands of great wrestling camps across this nation. A blind eye has been turned to HS athletics, its pure competitive attitude and has been replaced with naive fans and a build it and we can recruit them in attitude. And it's OK?!?! Sad.
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Post by Non-Recruit on Aug 6, 2013 8:21:38 GMT -5
Give me one example were the coaches at Forge have recruited wrestlers. It funny how certain individuals will come on this forums a ramble off accusation with out proof, because the computer allows for the identity to be hidden. If you have proof that this is occurring, take it the the right officials and make your case. I doubt you will, because we all know you are making up crap.
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Post by Non-Recruit on Aug 6, 2013 8:29:50 GMT -5
The proof is in the pudding. I guess you have a kid on the team and think its all OK. Check the rosters of many of the top ranked teams in the state. See how many kids are not in the schools' sending district. And yes there's proof, I know many kids that were approached to come to more than a few schools in the northern VA area....and yes my son was one of them. But I don't play those games, it takes away from the integrity of fair play. But then again you probably have to look that word up in the dictionary.
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